Comments on: Editorial: In Defense of Permanent Death http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/ Gamer Limit Fri, 25 May 2012 06:48:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: John http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/#comment-69999 John Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:11:40 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=48823#comment-69999 Hello, this is a Fantastic read. I've undersood this sort of prevpectise, previous to this and you are excellent. I really like what you've articulated here, certainly like what you are stating and the way in which you say it. You make it enjoyable and you still care to keep it sensible. I can't wait to read more in the future from you. This is really a terrific site. Keep up the beautiful work. Hello, this is a Fantastic read. I’ve undersood this sort of prevpectise, previous to this and you are excellent. I really like what you’ve articulated here, certainly like what you are stating and the way in which you say it. You make it enjoyable and you still care to keep it sensible. I can’t wait to read more in the future from you. This is really a terrific site. Keep up the beautiful work.

]]> By: LaTasha http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/#comment-69945 LaTasha Sun, 25 Mar 2012 08:52:36 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=48823#comment-69945 - For every homecoming game we have a enffdreit theme ( 08 was Disney themed) and the cheerleaders had their cheers centered around enffdreit songs. For example ?I just can't wait to be king? from the Lion King- We have the shirtless boys who paint numbers and names on their chests and stand out in the freezing cold- We have blackout games (Everyone wears black)- We embarass teachers and freshman at our Pep Rally every year. One kid always dresses up as our mascot = Rosie the Ram.- A lot of red, white and blue (our school colors)- The list goes on and on - For every homecoming game we have a enffdreit theme ( 08 was Disney themed) and the cheerleaders had their cheers centered around enffdreit songs. For example ?I just can’t wait to be king? from the Lion King- We have the shirtless boys who paint numbers and names on their chests and stand out in the freezing cold- We have blackout games (Everyone wears black)- We embarass teachers and freshman at our Pep Rally every year. One kid always dresses up as our mascot = Rosie the Ram.- A lot of red, white and blue (our school colors)- The list goes on and on

]]> By: Ashley King http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/#comment-28360 Ashley King Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:54:39 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=48823#comment-28360 I've yet to experiment with the Hardcore settings on Torchlight, but I plan to, because as stated, once you've gotten to around the 20+ level in the game, mashing 1 and mowing through your enemies just isn't as fun. Especially with rewards few and far in between. I’ve yet to experiment with the Hardcore settings on Torchlight, but I plan to, because as stated, once you’ve gotten to around the 20+ level in the game, mashing 1 and mowing through your enemies just isn’t as fun. Especially with rewards few and far in between.

]]> By: Ferahtsu http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/#comment-28305 Ferahtsu Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:53:08 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=48823#comment-28305 @Chris I've always held a great deal of respect for those who played Hardcore Diablo II characters lvl. 80+. Anyone who's a gamer must bow down to these daring gamers. @Chris
I’ve always held a great deal of respect for those who played Hardcore Diablo II characters lvl. 80+. Anyone who’s a gamer must bow down to these daring gamers.

]]> By: Chris Carter http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/#comment-28302 Chris Carter Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:26:01 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=48823#comment-28302 A graveyard: what perfect Christmas imagery! Haha, in all seriousness, amazing article. I loved Diablo II's hardcore mode. A graveyard: what perfect Christmas imagery!

Haha, in all seriousness, amazing article. I loved Diablo II’s hardcore mode.

]]> By: Sean Patrick Carey http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/#comment-28299 Sean Patrick Carey Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:00:37 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=48823#comment-28299 This was a fabulous write-up, Andrew -- one of my favorites of yours! Permanent death was a great element in Valkyria Chronicles. I found myself sacrificing valuable moves and attacks to save squad members from dying forever. For games like Torchlight, I could see myself trying an option like that, but only after I've beaten the game once first. There are so many games out there that I want to play that having to restart because my wife asked a question or my cat wanted attention at the wrong time would be infuriating. The Star Wars Galaxies info was facinating. Nothing brings out the griefers like a chance to completely ruin something that another player worked really hard to achieve. This was a fabulous write-up, Andrew — one of my favorites of yours!

Permanent death was a great element in Valkyria Chronicles. I found myself sacrificing valuable moves and attacks to save squad members from dying forever.

For games like Torchlight, I could see myself trying an option like that, but only after I’ve beaten the game once first. There are so many games out there that I want to play that having to restart because my wife asked a question or my cat wanted attention at the wrong time would be infuriating.

The Star Wars Galaxies info was facinating. Nothing brings out the griefers like a chance to completely ruin something that another player worked really hard to achieve.

]]> By: Shawn Evans http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/#comment-28298 Shawn Evans Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:20:46 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=48823#comment-28298 Great read Andrew. I agree that permanent death would be great as an option, but it probably wouldn't work if it was required. I myself do not have the time and patience anymore to put toward a game that would wipe all my experience if I died. Great read Andrew. I agree that permanent death would be great as an option, but it probably wouldn’t work if it was required. I myself do not have the time and patience anymore to put toward a game that would wipe all my experience if I died.

]]> By: Jess Famularo http://gamerlimit.com/2009/12/editorial-in-defense-of-permanent-death/#comment-28294 Jess Famularo Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:55:21 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=48823#comment-28294 This is a really great piece - good job! You raise some interesting points here. I've never really though about permanent death in games before, but I can see how they would certainly make for a drastically different experience. Having never played Valkyria Chronicles myself (I know, it makes me sad too. You have permission to shun me), I was unaware of the permanent character deaths that resulted from your mistakes. Having a hand in whether characters live or die brings you a lot closer to the storyline and really makes you weigh your actions. I think this mechanic would be great to see in other games, to see what other people do with it. I feel there's a lot of potential for this. At the same time though, I definitely think in some cases, especially when it's your own character, permanent death should be an optional feature. I know I certainly don't have the patience, sometimes. This is a really great piece – good job! You raise some interesting points here. I’ve never really though about permanent death in games before, but I can see how they would certainly make for a drastically different experience.

Having never played Valkyria Chronicles myself (I know, it makes me sad too. You have permission to shun me), I was unaware of the permanent character deaths that resulted from your mistakes. Having a hand in whether characters live or die brings you a lot closer to the storyline and really makes you weigh your actions. I think this mechanic would be great to see in other games, to see what other people do with it. I feel there’s a lot of potential for this.

At the same time though, I definitely think in some cases, especially when it’s your own character, permanent death should be an optional feature. I know I certainly don’t have the patience, sometimes.

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