Comments on: Editorial: My long-lost friend, The End http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/ Gamer Limit Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:00:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: iheartbustamove http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-27555 iheartbustamove Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:45:50 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-27555 Well I wonder if most gamers would feel fufilled if they solved a puzzle in a game and they were spirited off to an ancient spaceship possibly never to return to Earth again as a reward like the character Eli in Stargate Universe! Probably not because I don't think he has access to any of the newest releases now - but he does have his fill of elaborate "real life" puzzles to figure out! Well I wonder if most gamers would feel fufilled if they solved a puzzle in a game and they were spirited off to an ancient spaceship possibly never to return to Earth again as a reward like the character Eli in Stargate Universe! Probably not because I don’t think he has access to any of the newest releases now – but he does have his fill of elaborate “real life” puzzles to figure out!

]]> By: Gorath http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-27047 Gorath Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:51:23 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-27047 I have a box in my cupboard full of games, and I'd say I've finished maybe 30-40% of them? I'm a compulsive game buyer, and as this gen has seen older games drop in price ridiculously, I've been picking up many gems I missed, occasionally finishing some and retiring other to the box, lest they mock me from the shelf. One issue I did have is, due to staggered release dates, Australia got Persona 3 around the same time the US got FES, prompting me to put off playing it in order to get the full experience. Then Lo and behold, we get Persona 4 not long after that. I have a box in my cupboard full of games, and I’d say I’ve finished maybe 30-40% of them? I’m a compulsive game buyer, and as this gen has seen older games drop in price ridiculously, I’ve been picking up many gems I missed, occasionally finishing some and retiring other to the box, lest they mock me from the shelf. One issue I did have is, due to staggered release dates, Australia got Persona 3 around the same time the US got FES, prompting me to put off playing it in order to get the full experience. Then Lo and behold, we get Persona 4 not long after that.

]]> By: Paul Clark http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26839 Paul Clark Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:21:34 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26839 I rarely complete most games, as I usually play a game until it's not fun anymore and with a lot of games, that does not last until the end. I rarely complete most games, as I usually play a game until it’s not fun anymore and with a lot of games, that does not last until the end.

]]> By: Sean Patrick Carey http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26808 Sean Patrick Carey Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:32:09 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26808 Fable 2 does a little better, in that you get a good/evil/neutral choice at the end, and there is a little follow through after the choice. But it doesn't rank up there in the "to be emulated" category. Fable 2 does a little better, in that you get a good/evil/neutral choice at the end, and there is a little follow through after the choice. But it doesn’t rank up there in the “to be emulated” category.

]]> By: Matty W http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26789 Matty W Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:47:08 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26789 Nice article, Sean. Typically I finish most of my games through to the end, although there are exceptions with what I'm willing to put up with. I think the expected disappointment at a game's ending is probably a big factor in gamers stopping halfway. I know ever since I played Final Fantasy 8 as a kid I've have unrealisticly high expectations about game endings. But so often even people with realistic expectations don't get what they paid for. Take Fable. I've steadfastly refused to play Fable 2 after witnessing that train-wreck of a narrative. Actually levelling up your hero advances your "natural aging" until you look like the buffest senior you've ever seen, and then you rescue your mother, who looks 20 years younger than you are? And on top of that, on top of all the intricate moralistic choices the game supposedly utilises, you get a black and white good/evil choice at the end of the game, which rewards you with a single picture saying if you chose good or bad? Gimme a break. Can anyone tell me if they did any better in Fable 2? ;) Nice article, Sean. Typically I finish most of my games through to the end, although there are exceptions with what I’m willing to put up with.

I think the expected disappointment at a game’s ending is probably a big factor in gamers stopping halfway. I know ever since I played Final Fantasy 8 as a kid I’ve have unrealisticly high expectations about game endings.

But so often even people with realistic expectations don’t get what they paid for. Take Fable. I’ve steadfastly refused to play Fable 2 after witnessing that train-wreck of a narrative. Actually levelling up your hero advances your “natural aging” until you look like the buffest senior you’ve ever seen, and then you rescue your mother, who looks 20 years younger than you are? And on top of that, on top of all the intricate moralistic choices the game supposedly utilises, you get a black and white good/evil choice at the end of the game, which rewards you with a single picture saying if you chose good or bad? Gimme a break.

Can anyone tell me if they did any better in Fable 2? ;)

]]> By: Chris Carter http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26783 Chris Carter Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:05:33 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26783 @Jimbo The God awful ending was fixed with Broken Steel: sure you had to pay for it, but still! :D @Jimbo
The God awful ending was fixed with Broken Steel: sure you had to pay for it, but still! :D

]]> By: Sean Patrick Carey http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26780 Sean Patrick Carey Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:50:49 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26780 @Jimbo -- I agree about Fallout 3 being one of the best games of this generation despite the ending (you almost make your own story in that game), and also about developers needing to remove the fluff in the middle game. @Jimbo — I agree about Fallout 3 being one of the best games of this generation despite the ending (you almost make your own story in that game), and also about developers needing to remove the fluff in the middle game.

]]> By: y0j1mb0 http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26759 y0j1mb0 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 10:06:18 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26759 Being a professional procrastinator and general "usually never finish the game I buy", I found your piece entertaining. But I'll be honest with you, I rather they concentrate and everything else so that perhaps I would be motivated to that that fabled end. I think the number one reason why I don't finish most of my games is that I grow bored easily with the same bullshit padding and fetch quests that most games have. Why do I want to force myself to play a game that I'm not having any fun with when there is a potentially great game waiting for me to dive in. A great ending is like a great period after a sentence. It's the words before it that resonate, not the end. Example: Fallout 3 to me was a great game. Had a god awful ending but that doesn't change the fact that it was great. Developers need to concentrate on making the playthrough of the game be as fresh and exciting as when you first boot it up. Then perhaps more of us "anti-game finishers" may see the end, whether good or bad. Good read walkyourpath. Glad to see you haven't lost anything from the cblogs transition. Being a professional procrastinator and general “usually never finish the game I buy”, I found your piece entertaining. But I’ll be honest with you, I rather they concentrate and everything else so that perhaps I would be motivated to that that fabled end.

I think the number one reason why I don’t finish most of my games is that I grow bored easily with the same bullshit padding and fetch quests that most games have. Why do I want to force myself to play a game that I’m not having any fun with when there is a potentially great game waiting for me to dive in. A great ending is like a great period after a sentence. It’s the words before it that resonate, not the end.

Example: Fallout 3 to me was a great game. Had a god awful ending but that doesn’t change the fact that it was great. Developers need to concentrate on making the playthrough of the game be as fresh and exciting as when you first boot it up. Then perhaps more of us “anti-game finishers” may see the end, whether good or bad.

Good read walkyourpath. Glad to see you haven’t lost anything from the cblogs transition.

]]> By: Jimmy Lofton http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26715 Jimmy Lofton Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:03:32 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26715 While I can't say I finish every game I start, I do finish the majority. Whether it takes me a week to finish or 2 years now thats a different story... While I can’t say I finish every game I start, I do finish the majority. Whether it takes me a week to finish or 2 years now thats a different story…

]]> By: Chris Carter http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26708 Chris Carter Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:26:37 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26708 I’m in perfect agreement with both Shawn and Sean! I finish every single game I start! That's not to say I don't have a pile of games I haven't started yet... I’m in perfect agreement with both Shawn and Sean! I finish every single game I start!

That’s not to say I don’t have a pile of games I haven’t started yet…

]]> By: kowbrainz http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26698 kowbrainz Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:36:06 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26698 Great article. Love Persona 4, although in some ways I feel that its worst ending tied things up better than its other two. At the same time I feel really saddened about the end of that game, knowing I'm not likely to be able to see all of those characters in another game again and be able to catch up with them. Great article. Love Persona 4, although in some ways I feel that its worst ending tied things up better than its other two. At the same time I feel really saddened about the end of that game, knowing I’m not likely to be able to see all of those characters in another game again and be able to catch up with them.

]]> By: Shawn Evans http://gamerlimit.com/2009/11/editorial-my-long-lost-friend-the-end/#comment-26697 Shawn Evans Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:18:35 +0000 http://gamerlimit.com/?p=46920#comment-26697 This was a great read Sean! :-) I have to admit that I am one of those few people who see every game I play through to the very end. Unfortunately this means I don't get to play as many games as I like, or I rush through games. There are some cases where seeing a game through to the end is very rewarding, like Mass Effect and Modern Warfare. I loved the end game on both of those games. Then there are games like Borderlands where the ending just makes you want to throw your mouse and keyboard in anger. This was a great read Sean! :-)

I have to admit that I am one of those few people who see every game I play through to the very end. Unfortunately this means I don’t get to play as many games as I like, or I rush through games.

There are some cases where seeing a game through to the end is very rewarding, like Mass Effect and Modern Warfare. I loved the end game on both of those games. Then there are games like Borderlands where the ending just makes you want to throw your mouse and keyboard in anger.

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