Today is the day! All your friends are talking about that crazy game Demon’s Souls, and it’s finally available for purchase! That’s right, the supposed “too hard for school” action-RPG Demon’s Souls is officially hitting retailers, and I have no doubt that many people will play it for a few hours, and promptly give up.
But that’s a shame. Despite how hard the game may seem, there’s always (repeat: always) a solution to your problem. Demon’s Souls was masterfully crafted to the point where once you figure it out: you become God, and engage in one of the most rewarding gaming experiences of all time. I’m going to provide some very brief tips for you, in hopes that you’ll have that eureka moment just like myself.
Here is a typical Demon’s Souls first session:
0:05 – Oh wow! I can’t die in training! Have at you, fiends!
0:15 – FFFFUUUUUUUU I died in a hit?!
0:20 – Ok…a town…what do I buy?!
0:35 – FFFFUUUUUUUU this game is impossible I quit.
What gamers don’t realize is that if they reached the hour mark, all would be revealed. So how can you avoid failure, and enjoy one of the greatest dungeon crawlers of all time? Well, here are some things I learned by playing my press copy…
Tame non-story spoilers incoming for the few hours or so of gameplay. I’d recommend saving this article if you get stuck, and need a quick reference:
- You’re going to assume that the “Knight” class is the correct choice, because of all the videos and screenshots you’ve seen him in: he’s actually an advanced character, so don’t pick him. Pick the Soldier or the Thief: they’re the easiest to use. Keep in mind you can make any character whatever you want eventually. Just because you’re a Barbarian doesn’t mean you can’t use magic.
- Don’t skip the tutorial, and grab EVERYTHING you can find in it, as these items carry on into the main game.
- If you’re afraid that every time you want to end your game session you’ll have to somehow get back to the nexus; don’t worry. Just press start, go to the book icon option, and quit the game. You’ll restart exactly where you were before.
- Be cautious: look around for potential ambushes. They’re always the same if you die and repeat a level. Often times you can use an early arrow shot when they can’t see you (read on to find out how to use the thief ring in conjunction with this).
- As soon as you start the first level, take the left path, go up and around the large spire, and then descend it. Hit the switch to open a short cut, and make SURE you grab the “cling ring” on the bottom floor. You’ll be using this ring nearly the entire game, as it allows you to keep 75% of your health in soul form. Get used to the fact that 75% of your maximum health is going to be your “real” health.
- Go back up that same spire. See that Blue Knight? Either kill him or run past him, head down the stairs, and jump down to the raised platform below. Grab the thief ring: you’ll be using this the entire game. It prevents enemies from noticing you as much, and even works on bosses. Congratulations! You just grabbed two of the best rings in the game during your first 30 minutes of play, and saved yourself a major headache.
- After the first boss (about an hour and a half in), head back to the Nexus, speak to the Maiden In Black, and level up your Vitality stat a bunch of times (you cannot level up until the first boss is dead: the reason for vitality is because it increases your HP: ANY stat will increase defense, so if you’re having trouble, just level up). It’ll allow you to have more health when learning each level’s traps: eventually, you’ll have to learn how to maneuver around, but HP will soften the blow for now. DO NOT use any boss’s soul as currency. Save them, because alternatively, you can cash them in to vendors for super powerful unique spells (and sometimes weapons) all for free.
- Demon’s Souls players refer to each world as a “level”. Starting from the bottom staircase near Boldwin (Boletaria), that’s level “1″. Going up and around the staircase and ceasing with the Valley of Defilement, it ends with level “5″.
- In the second boss fight, defeat the archers, and use the soul arrow spell (buy this behind the level “5″ stairs) on the Tower Knight’s head when his shield is down for a VERY easy victory.
- As soon as you can, level up your “faith” stat just enough so you can store one miracle (you may already be able to do this), then buy the evacuation ability (the miracle seller is located behind Boldwin the Blacksmith). This allows you to return to the Nexus with all of your souls intact, meaning you’ll never be “scared” of losing your souls again.
- At least for the beginning of the game, never upgrade a weapon past level 3, unless you’re changing the weapon’s name (properties) entirely. If an early weapon is upgraded to level 4, it can’t evolve, and you have to use a special stone to make it level 1 again.
- After you’ve gained a few levels and beaten all of level 1, head to level 4, and find the compound long bow on a tower to the left of the keep’s entrance, and the crystal falchion to the left of the entrance gate: then run back or leave with evacuation. Press on with level 2 to meet Patches, but eventually, you’ll want to go back to level 4, head down into the basement and free him, then leave (you won’t be going back for a long while, nor will you be ready to press on). Finish level 2.
- Finally: this is the “click moment”. After you buy a few spells, get a compound long bow with plenty of arrows (buy “hard arrows” from Patches in the Nexus, after he is free), and have enough health, you’ll be nearly unstoppable. You can accomplish all this in about 3-4 hours (keep in mind the game can be up to 100 hours). Until then, just keep your wits about you, and you’ll do great!
If you own Demon’s Souls and have any tips for newcomers, feel free to leave them below.
This post is entirely for people who are having a tough time with Atlus’ latest localization, and want to blow off some steam.
Some good tips, but maybe too many and too specific towards the bottom (especially the one about killing the Tower Knight). The best part of this game is exploration and discovery and especially conquering a great foe after many tries. The Tower Knight is probably the hardest boss in the game (either him or those god damn gargoyles), but the feeling of felling him is second to none. That wouldn’t be gained just cheesing him from a hiding place.
Hardest boss in the game? you shitting me? as soon as you realise how to use te roll ability fairly well, he’s a walk in the park, nowhere near as hard as the flamelurker. Why else would he be the only boss to give you 100k souls on the second playthrough? whilst the Tower Knight only gives 20 or so. Tower knight however, is the coolest…. being a giant knight an’all
i rekon the knights easy as long as u hav a spell, i think the hardest boss is probibly the flamelurker or the penetrator, mabe evan the phalanx cos unless ur a wizard or royal u got no spells. i think coolest is penetrator,or dragon god, although d.god is real weak any way
i had no trouble in melee combat with my lvl 17 thief against the tower knight or vs the phalanx.
@Andy
Agreed! These tips are for people who absolutely just don’t get the game, and are on the verge of quitting. I had a blast using melee tactics on the Tower Knight, but it was fairly hard. Another specific tip is grabbing the compound long bow, which is usually found my surprise, but hey: I’m trying to get people to not quit the game here.
After you have the Tower Knight under your belt and start approaching level 2, your character is strong enough to carry himself: which is the point of having the above spoiler, and the point of this guide.
Thanks for writing this up Chris. I have read a lot of complaints that the first couple hours of the game is utterly impossible. It’s nice to know there is a guide like this to turn to in times of controller throwing anger.
thank you very much! these are great tips and very specific, I’ll definitely be referring back to them once I pick up Demon’s Souls in a few hours.
Oh man I hate my life at the moment. I’ve been wanting this game for ages, but Uncharted 2 comes out in a week, I have three assignments due over the next week, and I already have games I have to play.
But looks like good tips, I’m sure it’ll get us through the first 5 hours or so, and then we’ll get raped for the next 50 or so.
Thanks Chris, I’m going to give some of this a whirl this weekend, I think I may have missed some things along the way, but I have reached Phalanx only to die a quick death.
Why should I pick the Soldier or the Thief? Why are they easier? I have used the priest because he can heal himself. But I haven’t passed the 1st level so am willing to restart my game.
@thejesus
Oh you can try the priest: healing is a solid ability.
It’s just that he doesn’t take hits very well. The Soldier is a good mix of stamina, health, speed, and magic. It will take you a few hours, but you can earn healing magic with the solider: you just buy it from a vendor.
If you’ve died a lot as a priest, I’d recommend trying a more well rounded class.
Thanks for the tips!
But it would be awesome if you post the video as walkthrough for the first tutorial, it’ll be easier to understand the explanations. But thanks though.
Ah thanks Chris, after reading through this the 3rd time there is something I’m confused about, two statements that seem to not line up chronologically.
1.In the second boss fight, defeat the archers, and use the soul arrow spell on the Tower Knight’s head
2. After you’ve gained a few levels and beaten all of level 1, get the “soul arrow” spell
Is there no other boss fight after Phalanx in 1-1 until 2-1? Sorry I just want to get this straight in my brain.
@thejesusninja
You can skip the Tower Knight and beat the entirety of level 2. It’s an open ended game : D
You have 2 beat the tower knight 2 beat the game and start a new game plus
So the rest of the boss fights let you leave the room (unlike Phalanx) once they begin?
No, but you can just never do them. For instance, you can beat all of level 2, all of level 3, all of level 4, and all of level 5, then finally come back and beat the Tower Knight in level 1.
oh ok I see, so before going in just huff it back to the NEXUS. I want more than anything to conquer this bad boy. Going to take some time I guess. Thanks for the tips.
OH one last thing. Any tips on how to play with someone you know since you cannot join via a menu? And when can you enter someone’s game, after beating Phalanx? I read you can just leave a portal and tell your friend where it is.
Yea. You just put a portal up in a pre-arranged area, and message your friend over the PSN network where it is.
Chris, concerning the Demon’s Souls. Does each DsS have to go to a certain vendor to get the special spell?
There’s a number of different people who will take them; Freke (who you have to rescue), Yuria (same), and Blacksmith Ed (in the beginning of 2-1).
i just wanted to point out that you should probably remove the never upgrade weapon past 4 as most of the more specialized weapons dont come around till +6 or +7 and almost all of the uber weapons require at least +7 weapons to make just thought i should let u know
@handheld
Yep! A lot of the ultimate weapons are gained specifically through boss drop souls given to Ed.
This guide is for the first few hours or so; I could make an advanced guide somewhere down the line, but odds are, players will have picked up what to do by then.
Great tips, thanks a bunch!
wat magic lvl do i need to use high lvl magic
@f3
As long as you can fit it in your slots (memorization), you’re good. 3 slots is level 18 will; and most of the more powerful spells are 3 slots.
i fit them in slots but he wont cast im trying to enchant weapon
wtf i think it only works on non enchanted weapons regular weapons not special weapons like demon brand and wat not
one more q bro wat is the soul lvl range that u need to tag along with friends it seems like 10 to 15 wat do u think
I’m pretty sure that as long as you’ve beaten the Phalanx, you can invite people/join any games.
Hey Chris thanks for all the tips. You helped me ace the Tower Knight without having to summon anyone for help.
Heym gotta quick question how exactly do I use the phalax soul and the tower knight soul the alternative way?
you need the flame lurkers soul from 2-2 then give it to black smith in 2-1 he will make special weapons for u
What F3 said. Just talk to Ed over and over (“talk” function) until he takes the Red Hot Demon Soul (from Flame Lurker).
Well i have problems in 4-2 i keep dying two the old Hero Can some Help me thanks
@Somebody
Really? What type of character are you?
If you’re ranged, just shoot at him three to four times, and then run to the opposite side of the room. If you’re not, I recommend just getting the Compound Long Bow, and buying a lot of hard arrows from Patches.
whats the best way to beat the 1-4 false king arch demon
A Riker
Cheaply…poison cloud, run away for 10 minutes and hide, repeat until dead.
@ Chris
Nice write-up, but there is some misleading information depending on how people want to approach the game.
@Obie
I can see that you’re a Demon’s Souls pro (in all seriousness)!
I tried to make this as basic as possible, and allow players to gain access to all three tenants of play (magic, melee, ranged) in order to see what fits for them. It’s not a perfect guide by any means, but it allows them to essentially grab the best scaled gear in the game at an early stage. I also mentioned that this is a last resort guide before any information is given. Demon’s Souls is really a game that needs to be experienced without any sort of help outside of the bloodstain/mark hints given.
Do you have the import version perchance? I thought they fixed the False King poison cloud exploit in the localization.
@Riker
If that doesn’t work, I dodged a ton, and used a swarthy bow: it took around 100 hard arrows to down him. Just get the timing down for your dodges: he only has around 4 different attacks, and he shows obvious signs of using all of them. Odds are if you’re there, you can handle dodging his lunges.
i had a Knight but he got wack now so i change for the Templar Knight he is very good 4 me i killed the Dragon god at level 27 the weapon was A heavy weapon
never mind i killed the old hero and the storm god
Can you elaborate where this location is? “As soon as you start the first level, take the left path, go up and around the large spire, and then descend it.” I cannot seem to location it. Thanks!
Hmm what stage is the ?
@Notorious
After the tutorial level, and after the Nexus, head to Level 1 (near the blue spirit guy): Boletaria.
Head up to the main keep; you’ll see a HUGE castle gate right in front of you.
Go to the left.
Head through the alcove, and past the pit with the glowing wisps.
Then start heading up, past where the imp throws a giant Indiana Jones boulder at you.
You’ll see a Blue Knight in front of you: run past him, and head DOWN the stairs.
You’ll fit a few imps with flame sticks: go all the way down, and pull that lever: RIGHT there you’ll find the cling ring.
i see ur really helpful wats ur tag cause i have many questions to ask
@ Chris
I understand where you were coming from in writing this and it is a good overview for people to get their feet wet with a fantastic game. My only gripe with what you wrote was the fact that there are weapons that you do need to upgrade past +3 and telling people to put points into vitality when depending how they want to play, it might not be an important stat to upgrade at all. Other than those minor quibbles it’s spot on.
And it’s Death Cloud that you can no longer use on The False King(Or unless I am mistaken, any boss). However, Poison Cloud still works though it’ll probably take 15-20 minutes to get it done – It does take all the fun out of a great battle though – Nothing feels better than taking that guy down, Especially if he pulled off a Soulsucker on you.
@Obie
Yea I gotcha. As far as the +3 thing goes, it was mainly for the Sticky Compound Long Bow. As for vitality, I only recommend it initially for people who are dying a lot, and can’t understand the dodge system.
I need help in 3-2 theres no people to summon why i need help >=O
alot of you are morons i used royalty and i killed the red eyed night using him and i did alot using this class but if you guys are abunch of idiots and try use all classes with out being persistant on lvling up then u might as well quit
So I started with the knight class and I seem to be doing okay so far (Soul Level 30). I’ve been the Tower Knight and the Armor Spider. I didn’t find out about the “not using boss souls” until later. How important are the first two souls? Phalanx and Tower Knight. Cause I’ve saved the Armor Spider one now that I know.
@ somebody
If you are having problems with the Mind Flayers, Anti Magic Field or a good bow makes them super easy. If it’s Maneater, I’ll just say that there is a way to take one of them down before you even enter the fog.
@New Guy
Well, haha…
The Phalanx’s soul reward isn’t that great, but the Iron Demon’s Soul (Tower Knight) gives you an amazing protection spell – http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/spell-total-protection
HeHeHe MwahAHAHAHAHEHA
DID U GUYS ENJOY THE PURE BLACK R WAT?
@F3
I loved it!
Ok so I tagged one of my mechants while I was attacking a foe now he is pissed and is trying to kill me.Any way to fix that?
@jazen
No, but luckily the only merchant you really need is Patches, and one of the blacksmiths to repair your gear.
I just want to say that I beat this game in 40 hous without all the help from this walkthru. this game is very challenging and at times I just wanted to throw my console out the window. I used ranged and magic attacks and dominated this game very quickly. I am on new game + now and have died like 3 times already in the first five minutes at sould level 105.
I’m enjoying the game thoroughly, but I’m definitely being cautious, taking my time, farming souls to preemptively level myself up, etc. etc. It isn’t for everyone, but if you know what you’re getting into, it can be a blast. A few questions I’m having…
- Killed the Red Dragon last night. Am I right in my understanding that unlike most Demon’s Souls, the soul from the dragon is only useful for consuming? Not used to make a weapon, get a spell, etc. etc.?
- I’m not entirely grasping what (probably bad) thing is happening when I die multiple times before recovering my souls. Are my multiple blood stains getting combined into one larger blood stain? When I die a second time, am I just losing the souls from the first time? I’m pretty sure the answer is not that I have multiple blood stains to touch.
Thanks in advance…
Think I confirmed that yeah, when I die multiple times without touching my bloodstain I’m flat out losing the souls from the previous deaths. Good to know. So mostly just wondering about the Red Dragon soul.
The Red and Blue Dragon Souls are just for consumption
i have a knight class and finished the game at lvl 47 it was pretty easy and died about 20 times.
and i haven’t used any of the demons souls
knights rule
I was so close to giving up on this game, but for some reason it just grabs me. Thank you for the advice, I’ll use it to continue witht his game
Always keep in mind that you have all the time in the world. Don’t rush in to a bad situation, you’ll get stuck between a wall and a squealing for mercy death. Try to observe and lure enemies to fight on you terms, such as luring individuals away from their buddies or when you have a spear a long line of baddies down a narrow passage. Shiskebabs anyone?
So true about not rushing this game…if you are at all old school and remember the days of waiting for your C64 to load up Ultima IV and spending the entire weekend hermitted in your room…this game is for you.
And if you aren’t but are instead a newer gamer…used to having stuff handed to you on the rpg platter…consider this a personal challenge…glove off…and thrown at your feet…cmon…pick it up…I dare you to.
Seriously, this game is like a fine bottle of wine…better with age…more rewarding the longer you spend on it. The game almost intentionally goes out of its way to scare off the meek and mild with it’s daunting difficulty. Don’t be fooled it’s only the developer ensuring you have what it takes to go the long haul.
Guys, i have a pro-tip for any heavy armor classes.
At the beginning of 1-1, there´s a hidden path on the left with really hard red phantoms that appear. Go there, slowly walk so they will appear one-by-one and kill them. Be sure to kill the first boss before doing this and level up your char.
Just after the red phantoms you will find black phantom executioner miralda(i dont know the world tendency, i read that she will appear only in pure black but i had pure white then, itwas pure white tendency event, hm). She is extremely powerful and can kill you on 1 hit. You need to run as fast as you can back to the big destroyed stone building just near the edge of the abyss. Wait around the corner and when she comes, strike her twice and she will fall to the abyss. You will gain 5000 souls which you can use to upgrade you character, but not just yet.
Go where miralda was and continue down the stairs and eventualy you will find a ladder. On the bottom of the tower there is full fire resistant heavy armor alongside with a shield. Take every item because when you leave the world or die, the items will dissapear. Then go back to the nexus and upgrade your char so you can wear that armor with that shield. I did it that way and i had beaten tower knight on the first try will melee attacks
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thanks for the help and all but im having trouble….. after beating the first boss when heading back to the maiden in black she replies in telling me ( the monumental awaits thee above…… thee monumental will explain the neux to thee) what am i supposed to do…… please help……
sorry about the spelling im sooo agrivated with the game
@jon
If you go up the stairs alot (at the nexus) you’ll eventually come upon a bunch of people with an unlit candle in front of them, you have to go infront of the one with the lit candle infront of them and talk, you can then go to the other levels
Ok on the first level.. after the huge ball rolled down the stairs i went up and took a right.. killed a couple archers and one weak spearman. Then went and took a left to come to a lone knight with a shield and spear.. this is by far the hardest enemy I have fought.. I killed the tower knight but I cant seem to kill this guy… GAHHH any tips.. im a knight btw
nevermind i just smashed that fool hahaha man that feels good. I must have restarted the game 20 times..
Hey guys ive had this game for about 4 days now and its really fun. Ive gotten most of the mechanics down and currently have a level 25 Thief. One question though.
I want to make a ranged build, primarily using a mix of magic and faith, and some bow if i need it. My questions is, what is the preferred class to start with? Royalty? And what is the best way to spend my souls stat-wise?
Im not new to rpg’s, but im not a hardcore rpg-er, so i dont want to cram all my souls into my faith stat or int stat to realize i shouldve put them somewhere else.
Thanks
hey rookie if yur gonna make a ranged class with spells and stuff id start out with a hunter sence they are already good at the sats with bows i would say put your souls in faith enough to get a few healing spells then work on ranged magic btw ranged is real easy when going up against the adjucator but ya just work on both healing and magic but do put some into vit and str and dex. Dex over str sence you need hgh dex to use bow well while not as much for str
hey boombox behind the doors where the red knight with the spear was is the old king ya got to get the key from that one guy that looks like a knight that ya help throughout the LVL 1 area
Its funny how u struggle with such an easy game. My pure dexterity build kills any enemy in 1 or 2 hits.Beat the game 5 times on same char. I have 4.Im starting a new 1 soon. I got all trophies and 99 of every item.If u need help add my ps3 user CrimsonTear666.Im starting a new character and looking for someone to do co op to go black phantom hunting with
MY BOYFRIEND IS W/OUT A COMP TONIGHT AND WANTS TO KNOW WHAT LEVEL HE HAS TO BE AT TO USE THE WHITE BOW HE PICK UP IN 1-4. HE HAS SELECTED TO PLAY AS A SOLDIER.
THANKS
Its not about level, it’s about your stats.
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/white-bow
30 Strength and 24 Dexterity
what happens if Ostrava gets killed and you dont find the key..is there another way to open the doors?
heres a tip for demons souls owners if you want to beat old king doran just use the poisen cloud spell that you get from sage frek from the leach mongers soul just stay far enough away so that he dosent attack you or else unless your reaaaaly tough your done for
For beginning Demon’s Souls players: The soldier is pretty good at the shieldbash after which you can do an insta-kill. This is especially handy for the abundance of slaves in the first level, they mostly jump at you. As they jump do the bash and then stab em dead in one kill.
Another tip to go with that is: don’t get cocky with it, it’s very handy to kill a lot of enemies in one hit, but you have to leave your defence open and it could cost you. Only use it when you are sure it will hit and if you miss it say 2 times just forget about using it and go the normal way.
Where exactly is the compound longbow? Do I have to beat that dude that looks like the vangaurd?
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Never mind I found it, but where is the Falchion thing? Do I need that as well?
first off u people r retarted the game sucks its 2 repedative 2 get anywhere in the game u need to get your vitality to 30 then get the warding spell arrows dont do shit if the bow isnt built up then u need 2 build up magic def when u need 999 arrows to kill the second dragon thats bullshit u cant make your guy the way u want cause it takes 2 many souls 2 do that i beat the game twice 2level up once i have 2 use 100000 souls and all my stats r not 30 over all the game fucking blows and if u think different try beating the game and get your stats 2 99 with out online help then talk 2 me
i got the spell: protection and it wont let me memorise… is this a faith thing? because my int. is 12 and this should work
@ Agent 47
You might not have the proper amount of slots, some miracles or spells require that you have more than one slot to equip them. You also may have to de-equip any current miracles or spells (I don’t remember which one protection is) to equip it. If you want to unequip a spell or miracle click on it in the remember spell or miracle tab.
So I am having some issues killing the Flame Lurker in 2-2. Is it a good idea to play 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, then 2-2, or would it be better to to move on to 3-1 then come back to 2-2?
MW2 is a FPS, their main selling point is the mlelipuaytr, and its a different kind of game in general.When people play RPG’s they play for the story, the gameplay, and the enjoyability, I explained all of my points on this, why would I even try the multi-player, if i was so tired of the game after the single player.If my ability to review is so bad, please make your own Review channel, and upload your own videos before criticizing others expressive opinion..thanks.
How to get lots and lots of demon soul ( easiest way ) and how to get colorless demon soul the easy way
Oh yeah … another thing , whats the best spells should i use in the game ?
@Kidman
Do 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, then 2-2. Practice dodging, and use a ranged weapon: I never got hit by Flamelurker. His attacks have a pretty big dodge window.
Best spells are Soul Arrow, Protection, Light Weapon and…shoot the other soul arrow blast thingy…I forget what it’s called.
Ok, the online world tendency is black right now because of the vote thing. The problem I am running into is that none of the black phantoms are appearing, so I can not kill them to get items like the Tailsman of Beasts, Guillotine Axe, etc. I have already beat all the levels in each area except 1-4 and am wondering if that is the problem. Also, Old King Doran’s door has closed and won’t open after I already unlocked it (I did not beat him yet). And Finally Saint Urbain vanished out of the nexus so I can not learn or remember new miracles.
Thanks.
i leveled up to almost 200, then used Mephistopheles to delevel myself down to 120 because most hardcore players have chosen that level. keep in mind the only stat u can’t delevel is vitality. i began as a wanderer and never put a point in so mine remains at 10. ive done most things in the game without getting hit once, but currently without warding penetrator is giving me trouble on my third playthrough lol.
@chris u cant blame the game for being repetitive when u made a pure dex build and stuck with a bow and arrow the whole time. grow a pair
I’ve made the mistake of cashing in the demon souls I received from boss fights. Now I cannot get certain spells from Sage Freke. Is there other ways of getting them? I’ve tried helping other players in soul form, but once the boss fight is over, I only get demon souls, not the boss demon souls. Can you help?
you’ll just have to beat the game and use the new boss soul u get from beating them again. hopefully u didnt use the one boss soul that makes 3 spells and 1 weapon. 4 playthroughs for all trophies
Guys, what happens if I beat the 1-4 boss before killing all the other archdemons? Can I still proceed with the other levels, 2 to 5-4, or will they be closed, and how about levlling up? Is levelling still possible after 1-4 boss is dead?
i love how people come on here and lie about beating the game easily, making themselves sound like arrogant little nerd virgins. give credit to the developers. add tips not comments on how you think your the “best gamer in the world”. thats why non gamers hate us and games. anyway…this game is awesome! i love how HARD it is and all the work put into it.
@Chris (not chris carter)
Your a bloody wanker mate. I suppose games just aren’t your thing because u appear 2 be 2 good at them. Maybe take up tennis? TENNIS ANY1?!?!
Yeah I’ll be honest and say that yes, I am a wanker… And I like tennis. Maybe one day I can meet my hero Monica Seles!
Lol, I dont think there’s a comeback for your comeback.
also on the way to the tower knight if u want to kill the pesky red dragon go up to the first tower on the bridge and kill the archers the grad the crossbow/equip your bow and shoot at the dragon from there… this may take a 30 mins.- 1 hr. but its very rewarding.
I have had the game for about a month. Played about 18 hours and I don’t see why every one says its so hard. Its not a hack and slash, if you out think your enemies its easy. The funny thing is I didn’t even know how to level up for the first week. I started as a Thief (Still my only character so far) I was still a level 9 when I killed the tower night by hacking at his ankles. Then there’s the knight with the big spear in Bolitaria (just before the slow walking Old Hero or Old King. I don’t know his name) any ways you can get him to follow you to the stairs with the gate you told people to open in point 5. There is an area with a banister and if you hide behind it while he is on the upper flight of stairs he tries to attack falls to his death and you get like 2000+ souls. (I did that as a level nine a few times. When I finally leveled up I went from 9 to 27 all at once.) The only reason I’m looking for hints online is because I don’t have the manual and didn’t know how to get spells and miracles, So thanks for that info Chris.
I almost beat the game today I played about 12 hours
hay,i killed Phalanx and i left for nexus.And i went to level 4 to find Compound long bow and crysal falchion according to ur tips above.But all i saw there was couples of skeleton sword men. But i tried my best to kill them and i looked for compound long bow until i reach to that monster with four eyes(the one which we faced in tutorial). So, how do i get compund long bow.I want it to bring down tower knight.And my character is soul lvl 17 soldier.HELP PLEASE!.
and also, i cnat purchase soul arrow spell too. When i talk to the seller behind lvl 5 stairs, all he replied to me was ” what do you wnat brute?” thats all.
ahahahah..i killed tower knight and i had to use only 1 half moon grass!! ….. what a sweet victory!!!
wait, where do i go after i brought down tower knight? the path ahead of me is blocked!!..where do i go from here??
I’m a PC gamer, but I recently bought ps3 b/c I bought this huge TV. I love this game. It really reminds me most of the first few months of EQ -NO PAUSE. PUNISHING DEATH. Thanks to net help I made it through the first area with one death, thought that was my third character I was tinkering with.
Thanks for the advice, I’m a mini-maxer and I like to know what works best (yeah, exploration blah blah … I want to destroy!). I love the tension of this game. Have fun!
Btw, I live in Korea and have no English manual, so the net advice is useful.
I’ve discovered that if you quit the game immeadiatly at the same time that you’re in the midst of dying, and then turn the game back on. You’ll start about 5 seconds before you died and you don’t lose any souls either. I know it’s not the ‘proper’ way to play this game, but after starting over and over and over again from point A, this softens the blow some. And yes, you’re welcome lol.
I am playing with the magian. ? is what skill level do i level up for him to be good with the box
OK, so, i’ve been reading this entire thread for like 45 mins, and I noticed that some issues did not get addressed. I’m no pro at gaming (I suck at dodging and all the timing type stuff like parrying) but I do love this game. I’ve been playing it non stop (except when God of War 3 came out. Wiked game!) for like 7 months-ish. So here we go.
@HardcoreEnzeru
You have to defeat any other Arch Demon from any other level to go past those doors after the Tower Knight. Arch-Demons are the big boss men at the very end of each level. I usually kill the Dragon God because he’s pretty easy (2-3).
@Mark
If any NPC just starts vanishing from the nexus, it’s because you have a murderer on the loose! When you go through the Tower of Latria world (3-2 specifically) you get the option to let Yurt the Silent Chief out of his cage. When you do that he goes to the nexus and starts killing NPCs. I’d suggest killing him as soon as possible before he gets too carried away and starts killing everyone. Killing him will not lower your character tendancy, so hack away. He also gives you some pretty decent armor (Gloom Set).
Ok, so I guess it wasn’t THAT many issues… hehe…
and finally, to any haters out there who think this game sucks because they are “too good for it”, or because they can’t defeat a measly Phalanx: Keep your opinions to yourself, we really don’t care what you think.
does anybody whether my demons souls asian version game save will work with the usa or the new european versions of the game? i ask because the us and european version arnt region locked where as the asian version is. so i want to beable to play online with more peoiple without having to start over again.
yeah these tips are for noobs but they have some really good stuff like not upgradeing weapon two high and stuff like that and on the side the only attack spells you really need are soul arrow and fire ball your be surprised how mutch damage they do on the right enemy or boss
I beat the tower knight as a wanderer, i wasn’t a very high level, i had only beaten the armor spider and phalanx, i killed him by cutting his ankles and then his head, i don’t understand why everyone says he’s so hard?
@N
Most people attempt the Tower Knight before killing the Armor Spider: that’s why he might be harder.
hmm, maybe, i just fought him again with my knight a couple of days ago, and i took him out in like 4 minutes, including all the archers
i help people ingame all the time any questions or just need help can add firestart3r420
ADD ON A WINGED SPEAR
on my first play through this saved my ass sooooo many times
i boosted it up to like +7 and it was all good
the attacking behind the shield was great untill i got enough souls to do things
hey well i need help i have a bow and arrows but i cant use tehm,and onother thing is im in soul form i open the mains gate and i think is a boos but i dont have poison and nothing not magic and even the bow i cant use it ?any one nows the answeres?and i wow can i evoulve my character?
3-4 hours?! LMAO, are you serious!? If you just want to finish objective after objective in the game, this is not the game for you. The whole concept of Demon’s Souls is so much deeper than that… Take your time, explore, contemplate, die, live again and keep going. This game is NOT for people who want to breeze through it as if it was God of War. As others said, some good tips, but you entirely misunderstood what this game is all about. LOL 3-4 hours. Gahahahaha.
The game is so hard!!! WAAAA!!! Im getting problems just passing the dragon betwen towers after the 1st boss -.-
I think i will start a new game .. I will start as a soldier.
dude, do the level 5 – 1, use that sage freik dude to get poison clo9ud and get his head with it, itll take 2 or 3 clouds, and bout 20 mins, but keeps ur sword clean
Khkaari I think youisunderstood what he said,he said 3-4hours into the game
you will have great gear nothing else,I think you might be putting too much into what people say,or your about 12 but idk.
You misunderstood* sorry typing on an iPhone
Hi guys!
Question. I am about to finally finish my first round of Demon Souls. Def the most compelling, complex game out there. As someone who is not an RPG person, this is not defined as a generic one!
Great gameplay, and the fact it’s not a slow paced RPG one where you have to wait until you get hit by an enemy than retaliate,etc..
One thing I haven’t found on these forums which maybe the whole issue is I have been clueless the whole time about is that when I killed St. Urbain, I had other miracles I’ve remembered but haven’t equipped at the time.
I therefore can not gain back my miracles it seems, and am stuck the whole time with anti-magic. Is there away if I get more Intelligence(currently at 21, that I can get back my healing)?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
@Diablo, nope u gotta wait until u complete the game to get those miracles back
Great game. Got it a few days ago. Level 1-1 and 1-2 was nearly blown my patience away. But when I got a hold of the mechanics, it was a cakewalk (except the bosses… man…)
FaRming the Red Eye for 2K soul points or starting with a new char and completing worlds without dying really gives you the excitement of success..
Everyone must have thisone.
I’m 12 and finished white knhgit chronicles in 15 hours, this game for me was super easy. I also beat final fantasy xiii, kingdom hearts, and kingdom hearts 2 in 15 hours as well. I found all of them easy. Great RPGs, but so far white knhgit had the worst gameplay. Also Rushman can you give me your PSN account, I would really enjoy a top gamer on my friends list. Please tell and I’m out.
i read your comment berofe it was removed, thanks man! i try to give the real stuff gamers want to hear, not what paid biased reviews like ign/gametrailers/gamespot.granted i do like the ign staff alot i listen to their podcasts they have some badddd opinions on games.
Hey ive just started playing this game … Im Using Royalty and and have cleared 1-1, 2-1, 2-2 … but i dont seem to meet any NPCs…and how to learn new spells ?? My chracter level is 25… im focusing on Intelligence,Vitality and Magic … is it correct as i am new to RPG’s but is liking this game very much … how should i go about playing my game …i mean in which order ??
ha! you think the tower knight is hard fight the last boss in 1-4 (cant remember the name) I’m in ng+ it sucks but is fun. you learn to never get hit. . . .
wish i knew this stuff earlier
same with evolving weapons and what not. i’ve killed like 5 demons and found 2 others and used all of their souls as cash lol… oops
Thought I’d share some strategies for the 1-1, 1-2, and 2-1 bosses as they’ll be the toughest you’ll have to fight until you get into a good rhythm with the game…
Phalanx: Make sure you get Turpentine from the flaming sword enemies in the tower. At the beginning of the fight apply it to your weapon as the additional fire damage is invaluable against this guy. Just keep swinging at the same spot til he’s dead. If your health get’s low just hide behind a pillar and heal.
Tower Knight: Run straight through his legs to the stairs, take out all the archers while taking cover from his ranged attack. Run back down the stairs, get behind him and hack away at his legs until he staggers, when he does get out of the way so he doesn’t fall on you. Once he falls attack his head. Always stay behind him or he’ll kill you easily.
Armor Spider: Immediately dash to your left and get behind the corpse. You can use arrows from here and will only have to worry about the spider’s webbing attacks which don’t do a lot of damage anyways. If you’re forced to use melee attacks just try to weave around his fireballs in the tunnel and take him down as quickly as possible.
VERY helpful. thanks a ton.
very rewarding and compelling game ima soul level 29 soldier great class easy to work with i just want to know how can i learn spells because the guy just says im a brute
@Joseph
Hey im a soldier,and im quite new too,only soul level 26 i think but i remember reading somewhere that you need a minimum level of 10 for either magic/faith/luck/intelligence (cant remember which one,but it was one of these) then the guy stops calling you a brute.
im posting for an answere to my problem. I cant find blacksmith ed and blacksmith boldwin wont accept my red hot demon soul(maybe because i slash him every now and then but all he says to me is be thankful im in good health). how do i get my red hot demon soul traded for lvling wepons… plz help
It’s only blacksmith Ed who can take that one off your hands I’m afraid. He is easy to find though. He’s in the basement of the hut right at the beggining of 2-1. It’s been a while but I think you may have to activate some sort of lever to unlock the entrance to him. If you explore 2-1 it should be a piece of cake!
Any tips on the mindflayers? It’s making it near to impossible to get to the man-eaters. Keeps killing me as I try and climb the stairs!
Honestly the easiest thing to do is just use anti magic field, without spells they are laughably easy to kill. If you don’t have it try to lure them into rushing you and attacking. Keep backing down the stairs slowly to stay near them but still dodging their attacks until they cast the big aoe they do and miss due to range. At that point try to rush in for a backstab or even just a fast combo. Once you get the timing it isn’t that bad. Once you really get the timing with a thieves ring and fast running you can rush them and get a backstab before they turn.
I find wearing the graverobber’s ring helps with sneaking up on black phantoms … run past them or at least dodge their soul sucking attack.
I’ve been reading this thread for an hour or so. All the way down to the last one lol. It seems I may be the only one here who doesn’t play online (according to what I’ve read). I don’t know. Anyway. Don’t rush it. I try to level up as much as possible before I move onto the next Archstone. Keeps me ahead of my enemies. And its a breeze.
I eagerly await the sequal to this new type of RPG.
i actually hav tried every class and i prefer the knight over all of them but im having trouble finding great armor
What is the best weapon if im a Knight, soul lvl 120 ng++, bp always kill me cause my weapons suck, demonbrandt is my strongest. I poisned ed on acc so i have to wait for ng, which sux. Ijust wish I could enchant swords with Demon Souls, Ihave all magic spells and miracles, and have every Demon Soul you can get and some. Which would be best to enchant swords with Demon Souls? Ive seen this Bp kill me from 10 feet away with a sword, how do I get that sword?
i started out is a theif and it sucked
I’m a knight at lvl 18. I beat 1-1 without dying once and I haven’t gone any further yet. I’ve already made one minor mistake by accidently consuming Lead Demon Soul but Scraping Blade is more of trolling item anyway with bp form. I know 1-1 rather well now through farming over and over again. lol I just don’t want to mess up on missing out on some one time item or some crap. I take baby steps in this game. Rough game…lol NG+’s are great for second chances on a few things. I like to get everything when it comes to games like this one. Take Oblivion for example. I have a chest containing every item in the game….lol Ya, I’m a pack rat. Great game though! Played only 3 hrs so far just in 1-1…lol
Just started playing the other day. My question is about shit disappearing. I made the mistake of not dumping all my stuff off in the nexus, so that “picking up item would over burden you.” I go back and the shit I couldn’t pick up is gone. Can I get it back, or do I have to wait till I start my NG+?
It’s best to carry around around different rings for different types of obstacles. Like the ring of Ring of Herculean Strength and Ring of Great Strength just in case you need a little boost for carrying objects you want, unless your sure you need your second ring, but dump some objects in the nexus, like stones are useless you carry around because you don’t need them with you to upgrade a weapon.
i died about 600000000000000000000000000000000000001 times in this game, and spent 2300000000000000 hours playing it and still cant kill the false king, the only reason is is that i cant kill that bloody dragon waltsing around his castle!!!! any tips?
btw best ring i got is fragrent one, replenishes mana
dont matter anymore, i got a lucky death cloud at his face an he diedsd, any tips on th game aniway?
now im stuk on killing satsuki (b.phantom in shrine of storms) an i dunno wot 2 do, i tried death cloud but he fukin heals!
So don’t get me wrong I’m overly excited about being able to play this game soon and I know I’m on the bandwagon kind of late, but here’s my question. I was freaking Monster Hunter 2/U addict. I’m proud to say I made it through the entire guild and Akantor by myself. So I’m wondering everybody talk about how difficult this game is and I’ve always firmly believed MH carried a 90 degree learning curve. What’s the comparison rate here?
these tips are amazing!
Even flamelurker isn’t the hardest boss. if ur solo he is but with other players he’s ex. Man eater 3-2 boss and false king 1-4 boss are the hardest. Even with 3 players they can both be very hard. There is a glitch to beat man eater easily but if u don’t he’s very hard. And solo after a few playthrought they are near impossible alone
Thief was a little tough, just because of starting weapon. Greatly prefer wanderer – as you start with falchion, which in my experience is a great weapon. You can basically hack through blue knights before they swing, because you are faster than them. I don’t see how anyone could have trouble with phalanx – I beat him the 1st time I encountered him without getting hit. Just run away constantly and get behind the shield monsters till there are enough gone to get clear hits in on the blob. Tower knight is easier than getting to him – again just keep your distance and keep moving – no sweat.
I beat the tower knight but it won’t let me through the door to 1-3 still. Any thoughts as to why?
You need to kill an Archdemon from one of the other worlds just like it says.
sorry but thats bad basis as a review, seieng as you call it a review, if you called it a review of the single player’ then fair does, but like iv’e said single player is just your intro, if you didnt even touch the online you can’t really start to criticise as thats wehre the real funs to be had, simple as, just like i posted all the points on the ps forums to you
I haven’t killed the dragon so I think that may be it…I’ll try that.
the tower night is not one of the hardest bosses he was quite easy
before you fight phalanx use turpentine its really good versing him he dies easily
I think the hardest boss is maneater because ypu have to fight 2 of them
You can Snipe one through the fog gate with a sticky compound bow, dont use lava bow though it will knock him back.
Theif is the best starting class bcuz it comes with a bow:)
And also the tower knight is no where near easy !:(
Snipe him in the head from up top with a bow or magic, easy peezy.
I found the game very challenging, and got stuck at 1-2 Boss, and found this site for tips. I basically just shat myself seeing how big the boss was and just looked at him up and down before he 1 hit killed me.. lol. After that I didnt try to face him again until I saw this site…
I agree… once you realize that this game is not about ATTACK, but DEFENDING…. it becomes easier… still challenging but not impossible.
My biggest tip would be…
- Always Carry a Bow and 100+ Arrows (Compound Bow is Ideal)
- Quick One handed Weapons are Ideal 80% of the time, unless you ambush enemies from behind with that massive Dragon Slaying sword.
- Farm Red Knight in 1-1, then when you are Soul level 40+, farm the Ripper in 4-2. Then later on, farm at 4-3.
- Always have a shield, for red phantoms, try firing an arrow from far away first to lure 1 of them at a time. This works on Red Knights also.
- Use walls and pillars as shields when you are a range attacker.
- As above, Use those flaming rocks that the enemies rolled down to attack you with as weapons on your side…. In particular 1-3, when you have 2-3 red knights chasing you….. run all the way where this rock rolled over and gently run past it… the red knights wont be as careful and will die from the fire.
- As before, approach battles defensively….
@K3 I was nice enough to put the word fire for a message after beating the life outta that Phalanx . Thankfully many a people liked that post. it does make you life a lot easier killing slimy things. lol. I still have not even put in a lot of time playing. Main focus is Pak Mei right now. I am using the priest, any thoughts on getting this rank higher. Thanks in advance for any suggestions anyone has. And please don’t be a dick when writing back. Don’t need the insults you only have one life, try to be useful instead of an ass.
At everybody saying the Tower Knight is hard, I’m guessing you did the melee route. I did the melee route as well, and my first encounter with him I laughed at how easy I found it to be. This guy is insanely easy to get behind, and using my trusty Scimitar I just slashed at the back of his ankles. This caused him to fall down(roll to the side so you’re not crushed, lol) and then you can slash him in the head or anywhere you want. He turns at a very slow speed, and will try to kneel to hurt you, which won’t do any damage since you’re behind him and not under him.
I was around 8 hours into the game and I quit. However I am going to play again and buil don streathing my char rather then going for bosses. Thanks fro the tips I will use them. Playing a Priest
some good tips there. one thing i found helpful was focusing on raising my magic stat early. soul ray is a powerful spell especially in NG. plus a large shield until you get a hang of melee.
What level do you have to be at to use demon brand
Best tip ever: The Thomas Dupe ===
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Requires
- Thomas and Boldwin to be alive.
- 1 of the following: Evacuate, Nexial Binding, Shards of Archstone
This dupe has replaced most of the previous dupes, simply because it can
do almost everything the other dupes can but faster, and in single-player.
I’ve kept the Smurf Dupe because many players prefer to duplicate weapons
to one another in this way.
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Step 1:
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Remove all copies of the item you wish to dupe from Thomas’ inventory,
if any. If you do not, it will not work properly.
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Step 2:
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Equip belt either a Shard of Archstone/Nexial Binding, or remember the
Evacuate Miracle.
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Step 3:
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Speak with the Blacksmith.
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Step 4:
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Go into the “Purchase/Buy” menu, and select an item. Do not purchase it.
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Step 5:
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Walk over to Thomas while keeping this menu open. Get into range so you
may speak with him (do not speak with him yet however, just get in range).
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Step 6:
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The inventory screen with the Blacksmith will close. Use your Nexial
Binding/Shard of Archstone/Evacuate.
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Step 7:
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When the window pops up asking you if you wish to “Return to the Nexus”
press start to cancel it.
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Step 8:
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Immediately speak with Thomas.
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Step 9
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Deposit the item you wish to have duped.
If done correctly, you will instantly teleport back to the Nexus. There now
will by 1024 copies of the item you deposited in Thomas’ inventory. When you
take any, that figure will be reduced to 99 (or 999 if its arrows/bolts).
I killed ed… am I screwed now? I’m lv 50 as well so is restarting worth it?
I dont like you nigger Demon Souls Suck Arrow to the knee rock.
How do i get out of the nexus,I am getting souls but don’t understand how it all works