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		<title>By: Anonasnake</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-29733</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonasnake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to release digitally.  So they can make their money off the purchases before the game itself is pirated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to release digitally.  So they can make their money off the purchases before the game itself is pirated.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonasnake</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-29732</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonasnake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason they release the games at $60 a pop is because between the cost of development, AND the cost of fabrication of the discs, and the cases, with the manuals, it gets pretty expensive.   They make up the investment of actually CREATING the discs by charging an obscene amount.

However, if they actually worked WITH pirates, things would be better for all.  60 dollars is an obscene amount for a game I can beat in less then 10 hours in one sitting, and I&#039;m a CASUAL gamer.  I beat Batman relatively quickly, actually I beat it in a single rental from BlockBuster.  I purchased Modern Warfare 2, and beat that in 2 days.  I&#039;m not the type of person who wants to play on insane difficulty and die every 10 seconds, either. I like my games to be difficult within normal limits.

If they, however, started uploading their games onto more digital distribution systems, they could charge LESS for the actual games,  and people would be less inclined to pirate the game to begin with.  Why would I pirate a game, that may take 12 hours to download (depending on seeds/leechers, etc.) When I can download it directly from the source, from a super fast server?  That&#039;s why even pirates give time to smaller developers who can only AFFORD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason they release the games at $60 a pop is because between the cost of development, AND the cost of fabrication of the discs, and the cases, with the manuals, it gets pretty expensive.   They make up the investment of actually CREATING the discs by charging an obscene amount.</p>
<p>However, if they actually worked WITH pirates, things would be better for all.  60 dollars is an obscene amount for a game I can beat in less then 10 hours in one sitting, and I&#8217;m a CASUAL gamer.  I beat Batman relatively quickly, actually I beat it in a single rental from BlockBuster.  I purchased Modern Warfare 2, and beat that in 2 days.  I&#8217;m not the type of person who wants to play on insane difficulty and die every 10 seconds, either. I like my games to be difficult within normal limits.</p>
<p>If they, however, started uploading their games onto more digital distribution systems, they could charge LESS for the actual games,  and people would be less inclined to pirate the game to begin with.  Why would I pirate a game, that may take 12 hours to download (depending on seeds/leechers, etc.) When I can download it directly from the source, from a super fast server?  That&#8217;s why even pirates give time to smaller developers who can only AFFORD</p>
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		<title>By: Cotowar</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-26737</link>
		<dc:creator>Cotowar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, this was a pretty funny response.

Now, to get to the pirating moral code. First off, no game should be that expensive. I understand the work that goes into these new games, as I&#039;ve written several basic games myself and they come no where near the retail ones. Even still, quality products can be released for free, these game developers just choose to rape the economy with their high prices.

I would venture to say that most pirates wouldn&#039;t buy the game to begin with if there were no free copy, they would just wait for someone else to buy it, crack it, and release it on a p2p network. The same goes for music and movies. The game making companies are losing little to no revenue from pirates. What they are getting, however, is a reputation. If one company were to relax its piracy measures, and make full y functional cracked copies easier to obtain, people would notice.

Also, the EULA is a total piece of shit that allows the game companies, and software companies in general, to take your money without really selling you a product. You are not, contrary to popular belief, the owner of that game. You are simply paying them to use it. For $60, that game damn well better be mine, and I should be allowed to do with it as I please. If that means using the disc as a coaster so be it. If that means making 17 copies so I feel safe with my investment, that should also be okay.

Bottom line, go pirates. Thank you all for providing me and the rest of the world with free content, and may our ranks continue to grow. These greedy bastards will never be forced under due to profit losses, but that doesn&#039;t mean we should stop providing free entertainment to our fellow man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, this was a pretty funny response.</p>
<p>Now, to get to the pirating moral code. First off, no game should be that expensive. I understand the work that goes into these new games, as I&#8217;ve written several basic games myself and they come no where near the retail ones. Even still, quality products can be released for free, these game developers just choose to rape the economy with their high prices.</p>
<p>I would venture to say that most pirates wouldn&#8217;t buy the game to begin with if there were no free copy, they would just wait for someone else to buy it, crack it, and release it on a p2p network. The same goes for music and movies. The game making companies are losing little to no revenue from pirates. What they are getting, however, is a reputation. If one company were to relax its piracy measures, and make full y functional cracked copies easier to obtain, people would notice.</p>
<p>Also, the EULA is a total piece of shit that allows the game companies, and software companies in general, to take your money without really selling you a product. You are not, contrary to popular belief, the owner of that game. You are simply paying them to use it. For $60, that game damn well better be mine, and I should be allowed to do with it as I please. If that means using the disc as a coaster so be it. If that means making 17 copies so I feel safe with my investment, that should also be okay.</p>
<p>Bottom line, go pirates. Thank you all for providing me and the rest of the world with free content, and may our ranks continue to grow. These greedy bastards will never be forced under due to profit losses, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we should stop providing free entertainment to our fellow man.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ol' guy</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-26661</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ol' guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 01:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I would like to say that the games I play is legally purchased, but considering the quite irritating DRM or in cases downright malevolent copy protection schemes some companies adds; like say Starforce. 
That was a lovely little bugger, install a game with that on it and you are playing Russian roulette with your hardware. Or why not the DRM/copy protection that do not allow you to utilise an image of your disc instead of having your reader spin like mad for the duration of your game-play. To claim these program stops the pirates, well that is just bollocks, since those vagabonds of the sea have less problem starting their games than the average user have. 
And after some rambling I have come to my point, I actually uses the hacked version of some of my purchased games since they are less hassle to play (and improves the access time plus reduces some of the wear and tear on my stuff; primarily my hair...)
So care about the consumers you have instead of moaning about imaginary sales to people who likely never would have bought the product from you anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I would like to say that the games I play is legally purchased, but considering the quite irritating DRM or in cases downright malevolent copy protection schemes some companies adds; like say Starforce.<br />
That was a lovely little bugger, install a game with that on it and you are playing Russian roulette with your hardware. Or why not the DRM/copy protection that do not allow you to utilise an image of your disc instead of having your reader spin like mad for the duration of your game-play. To claim these program stops the pirates, well that is just bollocks, since those vagabonds of the sea have less problem starting their games than the average user have.<br />
And after some rambling I have come to my point, I actually uses the hacked version of some of my purchased games since they are less hassle to play (and improves the access time plus reduces some of the wear and tear on my stuff; primarily my hair&#8230;)<br />
So care about the consumers you have instead of moaning about imaginary sales to people who likely never would have bought the product from you anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: RJ Clarke</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-25009</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha, I don&#039;t even care if this doesn&#039;t stop piracy at all...I&#039;m just glad companies can do it to be jerks to the people pirating the game!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha, I don&#8217;t even care if this doesn&#8217;t stop piracy at all&#8230;I&#8217;m just glad companies can do it to be jerks to the people pirating the game!</p>
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		<title>By: Pirate King</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-24333</link>
		<dc:creator>Pirate King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piracy will always prevail, you can never shut us down. We will always be ahead of the game and cheating assholes at Major Companies out of the millions of dollars.

&lt;a href=&#039;http://img33.imageshack.us/i/thepiratebaylogosvg9488.png/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piracy will always prevail, you can never shut us down. We will always be ahead of the game and cheating assholes at Major Companies out of the millions of dollars.</p>
<p><a href='http://img33.imageshack.us/i/thepiratebaylogosvg9488.png/' rel="nofollow"></a></p>
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		<title>By: firstprime</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-24317</link>
		<dc:creator>firstprime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>morals are what you make of them. theres no set morals, everybody has thier own and you dont get to decide whats right or wrong. im a pirate but not a thief, nobody loses from what i do. if i dont like a game why should i buy it? i dont care what anyone calls me, give me whatever label you want.
its closed minded idiots like you that bring down the advancement of society. if you obey all laws then no movement will ever be made, you have to use common sense and good judgement to know whats right.
if you cant accept what i do then leave me be and get out of my way but dont try to stop me, judge me and insult me.
good day to you sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morals are what you make of them. theres no set morals, everybody has thier own and you dont get to decide whats right or wrong. im a pirate but not a thief, nobody loses from what i do. if i dont like a game why should i buy it? i dont care what anyone calls me, give me whatever label you want.<br />
its closed minded idiots like you that bring down the advancement of society. if you obey all laws then no movement will ever be made, you have to use common sense and good judgement to know whats right.<br />
if you cant accept what i do then leave me be and get out of my way but dont try to stop me, judge me and insult me.<br />
good day to you sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Yar</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-24244</link>
		<dc:creator>Yar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re all pussies for not defending piracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re all pussies for not defending piracy.</p>
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		<title>By: To: FirstPrime</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-24182</link>
		<dc:creator>To: FirstPrime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re a thief, get over it.  If you can&#039;t get over the label, stop doing it.  But don&#039;t get offended when someone calls you what you are.  Pirate, thief, whatever - that&#039;s YOU.  Oh you buy games and steal them?  OK, you&#039;re an occasional thief then, opportunistic you might even say.  Is that better ?  Moral scale says... NO.  You&#039;re wrapped up with the rest of the sinners in hell.  Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a thief, get over it.  If you can&#8217;t get over the label, stop doing it.  But don&#8217;t get offended when someone calls you what you are.  Pirate, thief, whatever &#8211; that&#8217;s YOU.  Oh you buy games and steal them?  OK, you&#8217;re an occasional thief then, opportunistic you might even say.  Is that better ?  Moral scale says&#8230; NO.  You&#8217;re wrapped up with the rest of the sinners in hell.  Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-24148</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol i downloaded the game the day after it came out and i never had this problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol i downloaded the game the day after it came out and i never had this problem</p>
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		<title>By: firstprime</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-24066</link>
		<dc:creator>firstprime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate all you overly zealous moral freaks.
we all love the game industry, but this kind of thing wont make a difference....

1: anyone who pirates a game wouldnt have baught it anyway so the game devs arent losing buisness that way.

2:if it was pirated before it was released then it is more than likely that most people who dl&#039;d it were just impatient fans

3: in my case (and im sure many other gamers are the same), i buy alot of games, i spend basically all my money on games, i support developers and have spent thousands of euros on games. i also pirate games whenever i want, i dont see anything wrong with it. because the games i pirate are games i would not have baught or wil buy in the future. i do no harm to devs or the game industry. if i pirate a game and really enjoy it i buy it, if its bad i dont.

while im sure many people who pirate games are selfish douches who have no respect or sympathy for game devs, many people who pirate games are loyal gamers who are short on cash or just want to try out a game. have a little compassion and try to think about what ive said before judging people and calling them pirates. i treat people who are over zealous towards pirates withe the same disgust that they see pirates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate all you overly zealous moral freaks.<br />
we all love the game industry, but this kind of thing wont make a difference&#8230;.</p>
<p>1: anyone who pirates a game wouldnt have baught it anyway so the game devs arent losing buisness that way.</p>
<p>2:if it was pirated before it was released then it is more than likely that most people who dl&#8217;d it were just impatient fans</p>
<p>3: in my case (and im sure many other gamers are the same), i buy alot of games, i spend basically all my money on games, i support developers and have spent thousands of euros on games. i also pirate games whenever i want, i dont see anything wrong with it. because the games i pirate are games i would not have baught or wil buy in the future. i do no harm to devs or the game industry. if i pirate a game and really enjoy it i buy it, if its bad i dont.</p>
<p>while im sure many people who pirate games are selfish douches who have no respect or sympathy for game devs, many people who pirate games are loyal gamers who are short on cash or just want to try out a game. have a little compassion and try to think about what ive said before judging people and calling them pirates. i treat people who are over zealous towards pirates withe the same disgust that they see pirates.</p>
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		<title>By: Unreal_Me</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/09/eidos-puts-pirates-in-the-asylum/#comment-23840</link>
		<dc:creator>Unreal_Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mirrors Edge did something similar. Part way through the game, you lost the ability to run if you were using the cracked version.

It was cracked in a few days, but it was still amusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mirrors Edge did something similar. Part way through the game, you lost the ability to run if you were using the cracked version.</p>
<p>It was cracked in a few days, but it was still amusing.</p>
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