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		<title>By: Herzaman</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-68153</link>
		<dc:creator>Herzaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 03:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes but only on the early PS3 mdoels namely the 2006 20GB and 60GB launch mdoels and a 2007 80GB model !After 2007/2008, Sony removed Backwards Compatibilty from all future PS3 mdoels !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but only on the early PS3 mdoels namely the 2006 20GB and 60GB launch mdoels and a 2007 80GB model !After 2007/2008, Sony removed Backwards Compatibilty from all future PS3 mdoels !</p>
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		<title>By: Didem</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-68101</link>
		<dc:creator>Didem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 01:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cleelptmoy agree with you, I think that if there are groups out there with highly customizable LAN interfaces where the game master can alter the game world in reaction to the players, then that is, in fact a role-playing game. Although there&#039;s a reason why you don&#039;t see a lot of those, at some point it&#039;s easier to play pretend rather than spend twenty minutes trying to code your ranger out of a wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cleelptmoy agree with you, I think that if there are groups out there with highly customizable LAN interfaces where the game master can alter the game world in reaction to the players, then that is, in fact a role-playing game. Although there&#8217;s a reason why you don&#8217;t see a lot of those, at some point it&#8217;s easier to play pretend rather than spend twenty minutes trying to code your ranger out of a wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Glass2099</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-28062</link>
		<dc:creator>Glass2099</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic but nice to find a discusion place wihout the email signup hassle.
Any who I feel like I need the nostalgia at times too.  What fulfilling this need usually leads to is a lot of wishful thinking of how those games might expand on their already charming concepts from there.  Hopefully someone will hit that sweet spot in cons rpgs someday. Hey maybe if you could be more specific on storyline and gameplay mechanics someone could place you with at least an emulator of a great old cons rpg you missed. I know I learned of quite a few ones in an older gamespot article on the history of the console rpg just today (er yesterday 12-19-09).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic but nice to find a discusion place wihout the email signup hassle.<br />
Any who I feel like I need the nostalgia at times too.  What fulfilling this need usually leads to is a lot of wishful thinking of how those games might expand on their already charming concepts from there.  Hopefully someone will hit that sweet spot in cons rpgs someday. Hey maybe if you could be more specific on storyline and gameplay mechanics someone could place you with at least an emulator of a great old cons rpg you missed. I know I learned of quite a few ones in an older gamespot article on the history of the console rpg just today (er yesterday 12-19-09).</p>
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		<title>By: TheGameLlama</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-13459</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGameLlama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and remember .Hack?  It was not a traditional RPG by any means, but that game made the offline MMORPG cool way before FFXII, and the way they marketed the game, anime, comic, book, merchandise, and breakfast cereal all together was a neat way to instantly saturate the market with .Hack-iness.  It was just too bad that the games were all basically the same and could have easily been on one disc instead of four separate 20-hour $50 titles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and remember .Hack?  It was not a traditional RPG by any means, but that game made the offline MMORPG cool way before FFXII, and the way they marketed the game, anime, comic, book, merchandise, and breakfast cereal all together was a neat way to instantly saturate the market with .Hack-iness.  It was just too bad that the games were all basically the same and could have easily been on one disc instead of four separate 20-hour $50 titles.</p>
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		<title>By: TheGameLlama</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-13457</link>
		<dc:creator>TheGameLlama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot Infinite Undiscovery...

Also, the &quot;old&quot; RPG&#039;s are still coming, but, they are, like J.F. Fox said, mostly portable.  The Dark Spire just came out for DS, and that game is practically Shadow of Yserbius (bonus points for ANYONE that played on the ImagiNation Network!  Anyone?  Anyone...?).  But Dragon Quest IX is coming too, and if that&#039;s even half as great as DQVIII, it&#039;s sure to be an instant classic.

The thing I hate most is that handheld RPG&#039;s always seem to be $40 new, while other similar titles are $30.  When Star Ocean was first re-released on PSP it was $50!  That&#039;s a lot for a handheld game... :/

I&#039;d like to see the Wii get a classic JRPG like a Grandia or Suikoden remake with bright, happy Wii graphics.  FFIV: The After Years is on WiiWare.  Why not remake the Dreamcast&#039;s Grandia?  Unless the Wii isn&#039;t powerful enough to handle cutting-edge Dreamcast games...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot Infinite Undiscovery&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, the &#8220;old&#8221; RPG&#8217;s are still coming, but, they are, like J.F. Fox said, mostly portable.  The Dark Spire just came out for DS, and that game is practically Shadow of Yserbius (bonus points for ANYONE that played on the ImagiNation Network!  Anyone?  Anyone&#8230;?).  But Dragon Quest IX is coming too, and if that&#8217;s even half as great as DQVIII, it&#8217;s sure to be an instant classic.</p>
<p>The thing I hate most is that handheld RPG&#8217;s always seem to be $40 new, while other similar titles are $30.  When Star Ocean was first re-released on PSP it was $50!  That&#8217;s a lot for a handheld game&#8230; :/</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the Wii get a classic JRPG like a Grandia or Suikoden remake with bright, happy Wii graphics.  FFIV: The After Years is on WiiWare.  Why not remake the Dreamcast&#8217;s Grandia?  Unless the Wii isn&#8217;t powerful enough to handle cutting-edge Dreamcast games&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-10090</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 06:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everybody nag at Final Fantasy XII&#039;s battle system? It&#039;s virtually the same as the PS1 titles. Just turn gambits of and select all of your attacks. XIII is turn based too by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everybody nag at Final Fantasy XII&#8217;s battle system? It&#8217;s virtually the same as the PS1 titles. Just turn gambits of and select all of your attacks. XIII is turn based too by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: I Agree</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-8804</link>
		<dc:creator>I Agree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nis America is also basically the same as atlus in my book. They make the same types of games so sorry in any of the above are Namerica instead of atlus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nis America is also basically the same as atlus in my book. They make the same types of games so sorry in any of the above are Namerica instead of atlus.</p>
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		<title>By: I Agree</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-8803</link>
		<dc:creator>I Agree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with everything you said. Blue Dragon and Lost odyssey were both fun games but seemed to be missing something that filled that hole inside. Dragon Quest 8 was the best RPG I&#039;ve played in the past few years. The world map was what did it for me. Dragon quest 9 is only coming out for DS and is action based, which makes me sad. All rpgs now days are action real time hit a button and he swings instead of turn based. I will have to look into Persona 4 if it is traditional, as well as some of their earlier ones. Atlus is still releasing fun strategy type games but it seems as though if you&#039;ve played disgea, makai kingdom, or phantom brave, you&#039;ve played them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with everything you said. Blue Dragon and Lost odyssey were both fun games but seemed to be missing something that filled that hole inside. Dragon Quest 8 was the best RPG I&#8217;ve played in the past few years. The world map was what did it for me. Dragon quest 9 is only coming out for DS and is action based, which makes me sad. All rpgs now days are action real time hit a button and he swings instead of turn based. I will have to look into Persona 4 if it is traditional, as well as some of their earlier ones. Atlus is still releasing fun strategy type games but it seems as though if you&#8217;ve played disgea, makai kingdom, or phantom brave, you&#8217;ve played them all.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-8491</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drag your PS2 out.  Persona 4.</description>
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		<title>By: Meh</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-5870</link>
		<dc:creator>Meh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not looking for a console RPG. You&#039;re looking for a JRPG. Western RPGs are still very popular. You just would rather play the pretty boy with the oversized bastard sword (see: breaking the laws of physics (see: using your own jokes)). That&#039;s okay. They make Final Fantasy for a reason. You get to play it.

There are loads of great RPGs out there, turn-based or real-time. You even say you didn&#039;t enjoy Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey as much. They&#039;re pretty much spot on for JRPGs. Perhaps you just don&#039;t enjoy the genre like you used to (see: losing touch).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not looking for a console RPG. You&#8217;re looking for a JRPG. Western RPGs are still very popular. You just would rather play the pretty boy with the oversized bastard sword (see: breaking the laws of physics (see: using your own jokes)). That&#8217;s okay. They make Final Fantasy for a reason. You get to play it.</p>
<p>There are loads of great RPGs out there, turn-based or real-time. You even say you didn&#8217;t enjoy Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey as much. They&#8217;re pretty much spot on for JRPGs. Perhaps you just don&#8217;t enjoy the genre like you used to (see: losing touch).</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the new Sega Genesis collection play all the old phantasy stars.  They will eat up some time for ya.  Plus as bonus you can play the old shining series too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the new Sega Genesis collection play all the old phantasy stars.  They will eat up some time for ya.  Plus as bonus you can play the old shining series too.</p>
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		<title>By: ..</title>
		<link>http://gamerlimit.com/2009/02/rip-traditional-console-rpg/#comment-3836</link>
		<dc:creator>..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dragon Quest IX?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dragon Quest IX?</p>
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